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Hamilton vs. Jefferson Round Two

Posted by barryauh2o on October 30, 2008

“Jefferson was very precisely in favor of laissez-faire, or free-market, capitalism. And that was the real argument between [Hamilton and Jefferson]. It wasn’t really that Jefferson was against factories or industries per se; what he was against was coerced [economic] development, that is, taxing the farmers through tariffs and subsidies to build up industry artificially, which was essentially the Hamilton program. Jefferson … was a very learned person. He read Adam Smith, he read Ricardo, he was very familiar with laissez-faire classical economics. And so his economic program … was a very sophisticated application of classical economics to the American scene … classicists were also against tariffs, subsidies, and coerced economic development…. The Jeffersonian wing of the founding fathers was essentially free-market, laissez-faire capitalists.” ~ Murray Rothbard

Here is what Thomas DiLorenzo has to say about this debate, which has been very popular on this blog:

“Compared to Jefferson, Hamilton was an economic ignoramus. His reputation as some kind of financial genius has been greatly exaggerated and fabricated, as the great late-nineteenth-century Yale sociologist William Graham Sumner wrote in his 1905 biography of Hamilton. In his Report on Manufacturers, for example, Hamilton presented the cockeyed notion that international competition would cause higher prices and protectionism would cause lower prices by causing domestic producers to compete more vigorously with each other. History had proven this to be an absurd idea long before Hamilton’s time.

Hamilton also condemned transportation costs, calling them “an evil which ought to be minimized” through protectionism. Of course, transportation costs also affect interstate trade, but Hamilton never voiced his opposition to them in that context. Hamilton was such a mercantilist that he even argued in favor of “a monopoly of the domestic market” by banning all imports altogether. It is little wonder that William Graham Sumner referred to Hamilton’s Report on Manufactures as a mass of economic confusion, just the opposite of a “profound and practical understanding of markets.”

For those of you who debated me on this before I feel as this reaffirms my points from the first post found here. Now do not get me wrong. The Jeffersonian principles have disappeared from the Republican party but he is definitely closer to libertarian than modern liberal, like the Democrats think.

The rest of Economist Thomas DiLorenzo’s article is here.

~Barry AUH2O

2 Responses to “Hamilton vs. Jefferson Round Two”

  1. Cato said

    I just finished DiLorenzo’s latest book, Hamilton’s Curse.

    http://www.amazon.com/Hamiltons-Curse-Jeffersons-Revolution-Americans/dp/0307382842

    I strongly recommend it to all…

  2. Leo said

    Well this just blew my mind. I’m outraged at the spin put on this whole thing.

    Hamilton was an elitist, Jefferson believed in having a middle class.

    “I am not among those who fear the people. They, and not the rich, are our dependence for continued freedom. … We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. … [Otherwise], as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, … and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow sufferers.” -Thomas Jefferson

    Hamilton was not shy about it, the old conservatives came right out and said that the lower class should not have a say in government, and that the upper class should have a permanent say. It was their divine right. He still believed in the monarchy, something Jefferson accused him over and over again of.

    How you could say Jefferson’s principles were ever apart of the Republican party is beyond me. The Whigs formed out of the failed Hamilton’s Federalist Party. After the failure of The Whigs the Republican party formed from that and succeeded. And they succeeded for one reason, protectionism. It worked greatly for our country all the way up to 1980, it was the one thing Hamilton had right. His idea of it though was to keep the farmers poor, bad for the time, good for later days in controlling large manufactures. Jefferson was the founder of the democratic party. He believed in low taxes for the working class and was absolutely for the working class having living wages rather than starvation wages. And progressive taxation was actually his idea.

    “Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise.” -Thomas Jefferson.

    Since today, conservatives could never get away with taxing the working class at 75%, they instead lower their wages as low as possible and claim its the business owners right to pay their employees as low as they want. Another way to turn them into peasants. And when the middle class is gone, democracy is gone.

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